She also discussed her latest collaboration with Marshmello “OK Not To Be OK,” which they released on Thursday (Sept. 10).
She opened up about her 21-year battle with depression and suicidal ideation but reassured anyone out there who’s still fighting “that if I can make it through the day, you can make it through the day too. We’re in this together, and I got you, and it will be okay.”
“I’ve dealt with depression and suicidal ideation since I was seven years old, and that’s something that I’ve been very vocal about. I’ve talked about it for years. And so today, I don’t take it lightly,” Lovato told Lowe in the interview. “I easily could have been someone that wasn’t having this interview today. So, I’m grateful that I’ve had the support and the team around me to help me get through this time. And what I just want everyone else to know is that I’ve been there and you can get past it too. It can be very, very dark, but we have to remember that we can’t seek permanent solutions for temporary problems, because life ebbs and flows. And just as happiness can be fleeting, sadness as well. So, we have to hold onto that hope, and we have to just keep fighting and powering through.”
Marshmello shared his own tender message to his 2.3 million Twitter fans Thursday by explaining the meaning behind the song. “Suicide prevention starts with a conversation we’re not having with our mental health due to stigma. the first step to breaking that silence is dispelling stigmas of fear, judgement, and shame about our internal experiences. We achieve that by proclaiming it’s #OKNotToBeOK,” he tweeted with the song’s unique hashtag.
The smiley-faced marshmallow-masked DJ also directed his followers to check out Hope For the Day (HFTD), a non-profit organization empowering the conversation on proactive suicide prevention and mental health education.
Their “OK Not To Be OK” ode to mental health follows Lovato’s self-love anthem “I Love Me” from March, and the 28-year-old pop star noted the pattern of “purpose-driven” songs in her latest releases are intentional, considering hell broke loose throughout 2020. “I feel like is the touchstone of what I’m about to embark on, being a very purpose-driven journey, and especially with my music,” she said. “So, it’s great that I get to start it out light, and that I get to start it out in a way where I’m giving hope to people, by saying, you know what? We’re not all doing great right now, and that’s okay, and you’re not alone.”
Lovato also tweeted out details of her and Marshmello’s collaboration with HFTD, which includes graphics highlighting signs someone may need support, ways on how to be supportive, and more that can be downloaded from oknottobeok.com. The DJ-pop-star duo launched a “retro desktop experience” that also features a mood quiz, the classic Minesweeper video game, a “Mello Player” streaming Lovato and Marshmello’s catalogs, and more mental health resources.
But as incredibly timely as “OK Not To Be OK” is, Lovato revealed in her Apple Music interview that she and Marshmello started working on the cheery, yet cathartic track a year ago.
“He did a really great job of matching the production to the lyrics. Because in the verses, it gets kind of quiet or more vulnerable. And then on the choruses, it’s more driven and it’s more upbeat and energetic and it’s like, it kind of provides you that escape that you need right now, that dance break that you’re like, ‘You know what? I’m not doing okay, but I’m just going to forget it for this second, and we just dance and we dance,'” she explained. “And it was really exciting to be able to create something with context. I feel like it’s going to provide hope for people. And also, just really, it’s really spot-on for a lot of people right now.”
If you or someone you know is currently struggling with depression and a suicidal crisis, check out this list of resources below:
Call the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline at 1-800-273-8255.
Text “ITSOK” to the Crisis Text Line at 741741.
Call Substance Abuse & Mental Health Services Administration at 1-800-662-4357.
Call the Veterans Crisis Line at 1-800-273-8255 and Press 1 or text 838255.
Call the National Sexual Assault Hotline (RAINN) at 1-800-656-4673.
Call The TrevorLine for The Trevor Project for LGBTQ Youth at 1-866-488-7386.
Call the Trans Lifeline at 1-877-565-8860.